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The Challenge of Change

Change is never easy and requires personal growth and conscious living from the person seeking it.

In this episode of The Beauty of Conflict, Susan and CrisMarie discuss the challenging nature of change as a continuous process and the need for a conscious relationship with oneself throughout it. CrisMarie shares personal experiences related to a 12-step Adult Children of Alcoholics program and neural retraining, highlighting the importance of finding inner peace and safety for making more conscious choices in life. Throughout this conversation, Susan and Crismarie delve into the impact of unconscious habits formed in early life on relationships and personal well-being. They also explore topics like the known versus the unknown, neural maps in the brain, the role of the brain, emotions, and the heart, as well as the significance of play and self-compassion in facilitating change.

Listen to this episode for a thought-provoking exploration of the neuroscience of change, unveiling the power of play, self-compassion, and cultivating choice in the pursuit of personal transformation!

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Key Take-Aways

  • How unconscious habits formed in early life influence behavior and relationships.

  • How the concept of brain plasticity contributes to reshaping deeply ingrained habits through repetition and understanding.

  • What’s the significance of play in the change progress.

  • Why it is important to treat oneself with self-compassion for transformative shifts.

  • How to cultivate choice and presence in a change process.


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CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke

Coaches, Business Consultants, Speakers and Authors of The Beauty of Conflict

CrisMarie and Susan work with leaders and teams, couples in business, and professional women.

They help dysfunctional turnaround teams into high-performing, cohesive teams who trust each other, deal with differences directly, and have clarity and alignment on their business strategy, so they create great results.

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