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Interview with Annie Hopper

Our brains are incredible pattern-identifying organs that, unfortunately or fortunately, are not perfect.

In this episode of the Beauty of Conflict, Susan and CrisMarie are joined by Annie Hopper, CEO, and founder of the Dynamic Neural Retraining System, to talk about the Five Pillars of Recovery, steps she uses in her limbic system rehabilitation program.

Annie suffered from debilitating chronic illnesses and chemical sensitivities as a direct result of limbic system impairment. After hitting rock bottom and failing to find a solution to her struggle, Annie took the matter into her own hands, and created the DNRS program for herself after she came upon the concept of neuroplasticity in her research. She speaks about what the limbic system does and compares it to a three-year-old’s in order to explain why its impairment affected her physically, emotionally, and psychologically. Throughout this conversation with CrisMarie and Susan, she breaks down what she calls the Five Pillars of Recovery, providing examples in success stories she’s witnessed too or even from her own.

Tune in to this episode to learn the key elements Annie uses for those who need to rewire their limbic system!

About our Guest - Annie Hopper

Annie Hopper is a limbic system rehabilitation specialist and founder of the Dynamic Neural Retraining System (DNRS), a neuroplasticity-based treatment method to decrease symptoms involved with multiple chemical sensitivity, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, long Covid, and many other chronic illnesses. Annie provides vital, groundbreaking information on the link between trauma, the brain, and chronic illness, as well as how neuroplasticity may hold the key to healing.

Before developing DNRS, Annie was debilitated by chronic illness and sensitivities. She achieved full recovery from these “unexplained” illnesses by implementing her own daily program of brain-based rehabilitation, which focused on “rewiring” faulty neural pathways in the brain—the program is now known as DNRS.

Author of Wired for Healing: Remapping the Brain to Recover from Chronic and Mysterious Illnesses, Annie is featured regularly in print, online, and broadcast media. As a speaker, she passionately delivers a unique and riveting message. Speaking engagements include the Canadian Brain Injury Association, the American Academy of Environmental Medicine, the Canadian Counseling and Psychotherapy Association, the Institute for Functional Medicine, McMaster Teaching Hospital, the International Society for Environmentally Acquired Illnesses, the Finnish Institute for Occupational Health and the Parliament House, Helsinki, Finland.

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Key Take-Aways

  • How neuroplasticity was the key to Annie’s personal healing.

  • What the Five Pillars of Recovery are and how to apply them.

  • What the Dynamic Neural Retraining System is and its many uses.

  • Why limbic system impairment can be a debilitating condition to human beings.

  • What success stories that back the science behind DNRS are like.


  • Follow and connect with Annie Hopper on LinkedIn.

  • Follow DNRS on LinkedIn.

  • Visit the DNRS Website!

  • Get your copy of Annie Hopper’s book here!

Listen to past episodes of the Podcast on Apple Podcasts.


CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke

Coaches, Business Consultants, Speakers and Authors of The Beauty of Conflict

CrisMarie and Susan work with leaders and teams, couples in business, and professional women.

They help dysfunctional turnaround teams into high-performing, cohesive teams who trust each other, deal with differences directly, and have clarity and alignment on their business strategy, so they create great results.

Download the eBook, How to Talk About Difficult Topics, today!

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